Sorry, I have been gone all day. I'm sure no one justifies this kid's behavior - but I was wondering what to do when he started opening his mouth. Lots of good insights here, and yes, getting her out of it as cleanly and safely as possible needs to be paramount. That does mean re-thinking the idea of when or how to approach the pastor.

The kids are separated by a family vacation for the next week. Everyone has time to think carefully. It's amazing, as calm as I like to think of myself, how this starts to make my blood boil at times. This kid criticizes the parent's morals openly. I think of him as a bully - bullying both the young girl and her mother. Amazing.

And, yes, no doubt there are many missing facts and probably always will be.

Thanks.