OK, let's try this again. Hubby, like Martin, you are full of shit. When facts fail you, you fall back on tired old cliche's that simply aren't true. Historically, it wasn't the unions who started the violence. It wasn't the unions that had the National Guard, Pinkerton's and assorted other thugs killing it's members, their spouses and their children. Read about Ludlow sometime.

If you were half the patriot you seem to think you are, you would understand that your nephews tried to gain employment at a shop that had a union agreement. The law says that they must become members. Would you like to know why? It's because the union was formed when the folks that worked there chose to create a bargaining unit in a government supervised, democratic election. This is not a radical concept. There are many things in a society such as ours that we must comply with, even if we are opposed. Like taxes. If I had my way, I wouldn't pay one cent to support this stupid war we are in. If I had my way, not one cent of my property/income taxes would be used to give Walmart tax breaks when they don't need them. But I live in a democratic republic, believe in it, fought to defend it, shed blood for it, so I live with the rules. It is a great concept, and you really ought to look into it.

Doug, you are normally pretty intelligent, but when you have nothing better to say, you resort to the cheap shot. The evidence is pretty conclusive. The destruction of peoples collective bargaining rights have many reasons, not the least of which is a concerted effort by business interests, and their lobbyists, and their shills in the Republican party, to weaken the laws which protect workers who simply want a voice in their workplace.

And hubby, one more thing. Walmart, if they are following the law (which they generally don't), doesn't get to choose if they have a union. But they violate the law wholesale, intimidate the workers, and that is how they remain union free.

Which brings me full circle to the question that all you right wing wacko's refuse to answer. How is it that decent, upstanding, respect-the-laws, let kids die to defend us, conservatives such as yourselves don't seem to have values when someone continually break the law? This company has a record that is a mile long, but that doesn't seem to bother you. Why? Because you are hypocrites, that's why.

Mick