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Thread #80516   Message #1471965
Posted By: GUEST,Clint Keller
26-Apr-05 - 11:32 PM
Thread Name: BS: More on left-wing Anti-Semitism
Subject: RE: BS: More on left-wing Anti-Semitism
" The left-wing is most definately a noun, a group of people with an ideology. Don't deny this group doesn't exist or "what is it/"

Martin, I honestly don't know who you mean by the left wing. Noam Chomsky, I suppose, but do you include Hillary Clinton? I've known some who call the whole Democratic party left wing. Do you agree? Or not? Do you consider liberals Left Wing? And who do you cnsider liberal?

Socialism is usually considered left wing, but Hitler's National Socialism is usually considered rightwing. And socialism isn't as left as Communism. Maybe. Is Marxism always left?

And do you consider Noam &/or Hilary anti-Semitic? Are you now saying that Anti-Semitism is part of the ideology of the Left Wing, whoever they are?

I'm willing to believe they exist if you'll tell me who you include and what their common ideology is. You describe it and I'll let you name it.

I was entirely serious when I said this:
'I don't know what Martin means by the "left wing." I know what "left wing" means as an adjective, but not what it means as a noun. "The" left wing does not have a rule book nor a pope; it is not a political party or any kind of organization, any more than anti-Semites are an organization.'

clint