So Joe throws out an olive branch and Shambles rips the leaves off, strips the bark, breaks it into small pieces, pisses all over it, and finally runs it through the shredder....LMAO.....Right, then!

Roger, there is no doubt in my mind and should be absolutely no doubt in yours that those who are posting here in this thread are crystal clear as to your concerns. You have often rambled as is your wont and added in additional concerns, but in essence I think this may be your position:

You believe that what is written here bu anyone posting here is sacrosanct and not to be changed for any reason without the approval of the author. You see an extremely limited number of reasons why this should ever occur. You think the way to keep things flowing and pleasant and smooth is to set the example through our own postings. You believe that any real concerns can and should behandled by Max himself who has said we are the ones making the rules and he only wishes to facillitate the process. Now I am not wholly sure of this, but I think that you also believe that Joe is and has been taking actions of which Max does not or would not approve and his Clones anonymity creates a bad message sent to the membership. The fact that at times differences have occured between Joe and the Clones which many view as a good check and balance (speaking as one who has both won and lost fights with Joe), you see as the fallacy of the system and/or/also that Joe is imposing his will upon the membership outside of what Max has stated in that post from '99.

I am sure you can elaborate on this and add in additional concersn, not to mention getting in all of the nuances of each thought and word. I think though that I have captured at least the basics of your position as simply stated as possible. My take on all of this is that you're wrong. Had I said "full of shit" I know that you would consider that a personal attack rather than aa attempt to lighten the mood as I would, so again I say, you're wrong.

It really doesn't matter whether either of us is right as long as our statements are on record unchanged as you wish them to be. Are there any of your thoughts that remain unexpressed? If so, please post them. Understand this.....Nothing that anyone here can say will change your mind in the least (it certainly hasn't so far) and the only final answer to any of your concerns must come from Max and not be based on your interpretation of a 6 year old post that I seriously doubt he ever believed would turn into your own personal vision and mantra.

I think that others posting on the thread might be in agreement with me, but I would invite them to add, subtract, or completely disagree on anything I have said. Even though I am Big Bad Spaw, controller and dominator of this place and the baddest ass in the joint, I assure one and all they will suffer no repercussions nor wake up with the head of Mister Ed in the bed beside them. You might Roger, but they won't.

Point is this.....If we all understand each other and we have each made our feelings known, then I think the only thing left to do is await a word or two from Max. Is there any point in repeating the same things over and over? Really, is there?

Spaw