Too true Ebbie, that's why you need an aggressive, small, foolhardy dog such as the Westie I mentioned in my first post. Westies don't run back to their owners with their tails between their legs....noooo....they don't recognize the fact that something is much larger than themselves and more dangerous. Think of a wee drunken Scottish footballer....that pretty much sums them up. But it does give you time to get out of the area while the bear is enjoying his hors d'hoeuvre.