"I think Jude was being obscure"
Nope I don't think I was. I think I was pretty clear in my question.
Obscure..mmm interesting response.
I would however rather be seen as obscure rather than being obtuse.
Glad my question brought some fun into your Day lads.
Thanks Little Hawk for taking the time to post your opinion.   
I am most definetly the Mistress of my own Mind, I don't think the same can be said for George Bush though:>)
Jude