Well, I have seen and heard many, many Muslims all over the world, doing precisely what you say they have not been doing, John 'Giok' MacKenzie. So you are working with only a small percentage of the total population of Muslims in the world. To condemn all of them for the few you have a problem with would be exactly the same thing as if I were to blame you for the activities of extremists in your country and those who don't speak out against them (the BNP for example).