I think we have to be careful about having a secret handshake, as it would exclude some potential members, such as Donald Trump - just in case he is a folkie, who is known to have a fear of being touched by other humans, and if we come up with a recognition sign which excludes some with phisical or mental handycaps, one thing we dont want to do is exclude handycapped people with lots and lots of money. So maybe the secret phrase is a good way to go... may be... Music... maybe... but is it art? Mudcaters whos name is art may have troble with this, but they can answer Yes, Art... and you are? Larry