the thing about politicians is - they're devious Ake.

How do you know he's not just saying that to get in with what really is a fairly well defined anti-establishment faction in Britain.

Blair has his game plan, Galloway has his.

Be realistic. the truth is never simple. No politician can really afford to tell you the complete truth. Otherwise they'd be lonely and isolated. and that's one thing none of them can afford to be - so they keep on telling us what we want to hear.

I don't think I'm saying anything controversial here. Why do you think they have so many crap policies. look at Thatcher with her National Curriculum (that all teachers knew was a load of crap - to protect kids from Marxist teachers) . Politicians all say things and that they think will please their followers, don't trust any of 'em!