Ringer - If you don't understand the fallacy of "trickle-down economics" I suggest you go back to school. If the man upstream pisses in the water, you get cholera. If you don't understand Thatcher's deliberate attempt to castrate the working man, you need to read history. You speak to someone who until the Thatcher regime was a natural conservative, an agitator at university for one-nation toryism. She, unlike the better Tory grandees, had no idea of "noblesse oblige", only of self-aggrandisement. She destroyed the country. She destroyed our industry and our economy to feed the tinseltown economics of her grabby financier friends. I learned from my mistakes. It took the electorate 3 elections to learn although
I hoped we would be on the barricades by the time of the third one. Time you did. On your bike.

Sapper 82 - if any of what you say to me is true, why did Thatcher lie and lie again to Parliament about it? If any of the rest of what you say above is true, isn't it about time you learned to tell the friends of your class from their enemies? The personal situations you describe were created by capitalism. Rise against it. Or were you too brainwashed by military orders?