Well, I'm a great admirer of Gandhi and all that he did, Shakey. His statement is a good one.

It could be misused, though, in some cases. Let's suppose that Adolf Hitler had said, in 1920, ""First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

He would have been absolutely right! That's what happened...up until around about the battle of Stalingrad. First the German public ignored the fledgling Nazi Party, then they laughed at them, then they fought in the streets (Communists and socialists etc did...) against the Nazi brown shirts, and THEN the Nazis won!

Hoo, boy....

You can win and still be wrong. And if you are massively, horrendously wrong, you may win TODAY, but you will lose somewhere further down the line.

Now I didn't say all that as a refutation of your position on things. I just said it because it's kind of interesting. So don't take it personally, okay?

Now, regarding the terrorist threat. Is it real? Darned right it is! And here's another threat that's real: the possibility that the USA and Britain may attack Iran one of these days and the possibility that they may be in Iraq for a long time, not to help Iraqis but to control the oil.

Shoud we be concerned about the terrorist threat on our home ground? YES!

Should Iraqis, Iranians, Afghans, and many other Muslims be concerned about the corporate Anglo-American threat to their sovereignty over their own lands and strategic resources? YES!

We have at least 2 major groups of people here under grave threat, Shakey...and be each other, so maybe you should suggest a 2nd petition as well. ;-) Just to be fair, I mean.

Ever had your city bombed by squadrons of F-16's? Ever had your neighborhood flattened by Abrams tanks? You would not like that.