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Thread #84113   Message #1551378
Posted By: Tiocfaidh
28-Aug-05 - 03:38 AM
Thread Name: BS: Are we anti-Irish?
Subject: RE: BS: Are we anti-Irish?
On another thread you referred to yourself as 'English', Dave.
(Funny how I knew you'd be the kind of person that would be likely to do that....)

We're talking about a frame of mind here...

"Plus there is a difference between prejudices or stereotypes and hatred."
Exactly, Le Scaramouche.

Let's not confuse the issue here; we're not talking about hate.
We're talking about an Anti-Irish (Northern Nationalists in particular) bias among people who feel they have to call themselves 'British', as opposed to 'English' (Passport requirements, notwithstanding)

I think we wont get a scientific result though, Dave.

I don't think Anti-Irish people will come in here and defend their standpoint; most anti- anything sentiment you'd care to name, is a product of either historical predjudice, or decent 'marketing' on behalf of the 'pro-' whatever sentiment, side.

If the sniping that is done here on these boards by British people at anything remotely Pro-Irish, is anything to go by, take those comments, and juxtapose them into every living room in England, and tell me that those comments are not said, by your average guy with an over-developed Britannia Rules the Waves gene.

In the case of the Northern Nationalists, oddly enough it was the US Courts that made a few examples out of the 'British' Justice System.

Anti-Irishness is institionalised, Dave.

It is only free-thinkers who break that mould.

The average 'Everybody else' couldn't care less if we dropped off into the Atlantic or not.
Preferably the former, of course (... and there is documentary evidence in the archives of Mudcat, supporting this; I couldn't be arsed finding it at the minute, but that and worse is in there, you can take my word on that)

"... from apathetic to downright hostile"

As a Pro-Irish Brit is a contradiction in terms, our scale must start at 'apathetic'

Anyway let's see what the folks say...