What a remarkable thread, with some well thought out arguments. I remember Bobby Sands MP and I remember the sadness and anger I felt when he died.However I must take issue with one thing, The atrocities carried out by the British army were done at the behest of the British government, NOT all the British people. I was and still am sympathetic to the Republican cause, if not their methods. By lumping us all together it is like me accusing all White Americans of slaugtering America's first people and of treating the African Americans so badly. I can think of a few causes for which I would die but NONE for which I could kill.

Viv