MaryGThanks. Yes, did that and got him moved to another area. He now has a powered wheelchair and a flat he can use it in. Navy assistance was useless - expected gratitude and patience for charity. So Victorian. But that was not the point of what I was saying. Despite all that the only time he attempted suicide was because someone else was making the running. Ergo, I say, if you get involved in helping the suicidal you run the risk of being taken down too. Help by all means, but keep enough distance.