This thread is going down the dumper
Ron, you still attack the poster on a personal basis - why not attack the contents of the post?

And to give a reason why I think this thread is in deep doo doo.......
ready? I am going to agree with Mr. Bobert but will only admit to this one item; in his post @ 10:31 PM last night, he said it "ain't no government anymore" Amen! Just don't get carried away folks and think there is more I agree with.

Am I a Conserative? Pretty much in some respects - very moderate with regard to social issues. My take: It is not the fault of Bush overall, it is the system. One big group in DC who have lost sight of the Constitution and spend all their time (and our money) 'buying votes. Of course, they "buy" the money of special interest groups by returning favors. When did it start? To a small degree, probably 200 years ago. But there were always a group of the good guys to keep it under control. Now, there are still 'good' guys involved but they have lost sight of their reason for being there.
Yes, I voted for Bush. I now have another reason for the knot in my stomach and that is the massive amount of $ going to New Orleans. Some is needed, I grant you, but there are parts of Mississippi that are far more devastated.
This has ben the practice of the politicians for years - throw tons of money at it! And don't try to blame all this on GWB. It is the system, both sides of the aisle, career politicians with many having no concept of what it is to be employed outside the realm of politics.

Now evaluate the following and let have it if you so desire;
I am worn out from the government maintaining such a large percentage of the population. Help when needed is fine and required. But, while should many poor schmucks like myself pay taxes, send kids to college w/o government assistance, give generously to charities, work for charitable organizations only to see where the most corrupt state in the nation is going to be completely bailed out, including those who have lived on the government dole forever (Both white and black).

The lump in the gut grows larger. It got its' start when tens of thousands of us ended losing our retirement accounts due to the Feds watching things like Waco, Microsoft and other noneventful things. All the while, the lack of regulation and watchfulness from Federal agencies allowed the CEOs and their underlings to financilly ruin the very thing they had built with the help of stockholders.


Okay, I am rambling - we must take care of people when disasters happen but I am of the opinion that Enron, Global Crossing and others were equally disasterous to another group that adds up up to hundreds of thousands of US citizens. Why some of you are so hateful towards Bush amazes me. It is the system and until we accept that fact, the fighting goes on between us while the Dems and Repubs, if you can find a delinination, go about the business of "government" as they define it.