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Thread #84217   Message #1566524
Posted By: Bunnahabhain
19-Sep-05 - 06:47 AM
Thread Name: BS: Black looters, white finders
Subject: RE: BS: Black looters, white finders
Come on Azizi, that's a bit one sided. You've pulled out alot of uses of the word 'black', and assumed the worst in all cases.

How about NON RACIAL meanings?

A lack of light, ie darkness or blackness has long invoked fear and uncertainly, as you can't see what's out there.

Also you state the Romans used black as a negative colour. Given the huge influence classical civilistaion had on the West, you really do need some specfic reason to suspect Black being used negativly has some racial connection.

I've pulled out alot of the ones that I know or suspect roots for other than the two above.

Bunnahabhain

A "black day", in these cultures, would refer to a sad or tragic day. The Romans already marked fasti days with white stones and nefasti days with black.

e.g. the Black September in Jordan refers to a month in which thousands were killed.

Black Monday, stock crash of October 19, 1987

Black Tuesday is the day of the stock market crash in 1929 which is the start of the Great Depression.

Black Wednesday caused Britain to pull out of the ERM.

Black Thursday, date preceding the stock crash of October 29, 1929, forecasting the stock market crash and the Great Depression

Black Friday, various tragic events.

many poems and songs use the word black negatively (e.g. Paint it black (Rolling Stones), Baby's in black (Beatles), Black eyed dog (Nick Drake).

In these cultures, the color black is often used in painting, film, and literature to evoke a sense of the fear or to symbolize death. It has also been adopted a symbolic color of the Halloween festival.


In English heraldry, black means darkness, doubt, ignorance, and uncertainty. (The American Girls Handy Book, p. 370)
Black meaning darkness. And this is racism?

Black is often a color of mourning. Historically, widows and widowers were expected to wear black for a year after the death of their spouses.

Black comedy is a form of comedy dealing with morbid and serious topics.

Black magic is an evil form of magic, often connected with death.

A blacklist is a list of undesirable persons or entities.

Evil witches are sterotypically dressed in black and good fairies in white. Melodrama villains are dressed in black and heroines in white dresses. In many Hollywood Westerns, bad cowboys wear black hats while the good ones wear white.
Exacly as you say, stereotypes.

In computer security, blackhat is an attacker with evil intentions.
see above for origins

Funeral dress is black, wedding gowns are white.
That's the white for viginity. Male wedding outfits are mainly black. Or does that imply the husband-to-be should go into mourning for something?

The black-market is illegal.
It happems out of sight of the authorities and general population, ie in the dark, or black.

Blackmail is illegal and is perceived as immoral.
As for black market. And surely you're not saying blackmail is a moral or desirable thing?
The black sheep of the family is the ne'er-do-well.
Probably from the fact that most sheep are white, so the black sheep is the odd one out, which is what you want the troublemaker in the family to be.

The infamous "black hole of Calcutta."
It was very dark, and a hole. Hence black hole.

To blackball them is to block them from being admitted.

Black thoughts are dark ones.

A black mood is a bad one (e.g. Winston Churchill's depression, which he called "my black dog").

A black cat usually means bad luck.
Or good luck. It's powerful, that's all.

If you sink the black eight-ball in billiards, you lose. (The ball with which you sink all others is the white cue ball.)
In Pool, you must sink the black ball to win, and in Snooker, the black is the most valuable ball. Or is sinking the black ball also a negative comment? Best not have a black ball at all to avoid this problem. Now you're discriminating against black....

A black mark against you is a bad thing.

A dark night is "black as Hell".
There are plenty of biblical refernces to Hell as a 'pit of darkness' and such like. So a dark night is as dark as the pit of darkness. Hmmm.

A black-hearted person is mean and unloving.

Black propaganda is the use of known falsehoods, partial truths, or masquerades in propaganda to confuse an opponent.

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As to the example " Black thoughts are dark ones. ", the author of this article may not have considered that he/she used "dark" as a negative.

However, that article does list some positive meanings of the color "black". Too bad most Black children aren't familiar with those positive meanings.

In 2005 you can still hear African American children hurl what they consider an insult to another African American by calling him or her "blackie".

All of this to saym that we've still got alot of work to do.