The mechanics lessons aren't free Dave, the best things never are. How's about some greening with "Paddy Doyle's Boots"? I'll promise to stop playing the banjo, and will curl up and read over Caitrins' shoulder until Dave takes the roller blades off. Mbo, what's this about "Pawky Duke"? I seem to be suffering from what we in the 'biz call anal/cranial inversion...help me out. Elle