Peace: My apologies---now I know what the "echo" meant.    Did not see that prior posting---thought I was being original.   I have that there is not much that is original---always something out there just like what you thought up. Now---if I can think up something really new I could get the bic bucks---but not on Mudcat.

Well---be easy on the Beaver.   That Ward is a piece of work.   Nice suit and all.

Bill Hahn