Two quotes from MGOH;

""I can't tell you if the use of force in Iraq today will last five days, five weeks or five months, but it won't last any longer than that." Donald Rumsfeld, Sect. of Defense, Nov. 14, 2002."


"Of course, so far as the actual initial victory goes, they are accurate enough ..."

No qualification - seems so to me.

There is no civil war in Iraq at present, no matter how much those of you posting here would wish to see it. Apart from which I have yet to read one post of yours (Dianavan) comdemning any Islamic Government for human rights abuses. At least the people of Afghanistan and Iraq have been given the opportunity - most seem to appreciate it - even when threatened by those you seem to whole heartedly support. Please answer a direct question would you have preferred it if Saddam Hussein were still in power?

Foolestroupe - the grounds for your rather inane statement is? In May 2003 British troop levels in Iraq were over 30,000, they are now slightly less than 8,500 - in Northern Ireland they are at around 15,000.