my response is actuaaly in regard to the tale of a tramp. my grandfather had the tale memorized, and would recite it at family gatherings after having quite a few beers. i've been trying to find it as well as other family members to no avail. i was thrilled to find it through you, and can't thank you enough. is there any other information regarding the verse that you might be aware of, such as author and time of origin? thanks once again, ed bouvy