30,000 or more as of Sunday morning. The bad weather has made things a lot worse. Meanwhile, on the North American continent, the results of Stan are devasating in Guatemala. 1500 as of this morning.

People will do what they can to help. Something that would be useful for all people of the world is a concerted effort to design and support the construction of homes and structures to withstand the common conditions in any given area. Earthquake, hurricane, tornado, flood, fire, extreme heat and cold. There are things that can be done to make these things more survivable. It's apparent that people WILL build where they want to, whether it makes sense or not. Of all risks, not building where mudslides and floods occur are likely seem most obvious. Time to listen to regional geologists and meteorologists.

SRS