The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #85144   Message #1580578
Posted By: McGrath of Harlow
10-Oct-05 - 08:03 PM
Thread Name: BS: reasons Liberals fail
Subject: RE: BS: reasons Liberals fail
So they had a vote in Oregon. How does that have any particular relevance to anywhere other than Oregon?

I'd guarantee that if you had a vote anywhere where there is "socialized medicine" you'd never get a vote to give it up. People in the UK might disagree about the actual best mechanism for running it, and have ideas which they think would improve it, but when it comes to the principle that there must always be univeral access to health care free at the point of demand, that's virtually unanimously agreed.

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"...figuring that all will be well once we reduce emmisions. THAT is what I do not see any evidence for, yet hear as a mantra of many people here."

I don't think I've ever heard anyone saying that, here or elsewhere. Emissions are one source of our problems, but by no means the only one. Saying all would be well if we cut them down would be a bit like saying that if we cut out smoking all our health problems would be solved. That'd be nonsense. But it still makes a lot of sense to cut out smoking.