All good discussion and good advice.

To be blunt, some Beatles songs are good and some are not only not very good (not much of a tune, not much of a lyric kind of not very good, and if pushed I will give examples,) but they are very, yes, very short.

I have followed them since Ellesmere Port Civic Hall 1962 to Paul at the MEN last year, so I am familiar with their work.)

Yes I have been around a lot of very long wrist slashing English Ballads and I don't want to go there. Martin Carthy has resurected quite a few old songs from bits and pieces, so it can be done. Doug has done it twice already in this thread!