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Thread #85532   Message #1584913
Posted By: Little Hawk
17-Oct-05 - 06:11 PM
Thread Name: BS: Freedom of speech- Unless we disagree
Subject: RE: BS: Freedom of speech- Unless we disagree
The Nazi Party was founded upon some very, VERY negative psychology, emanating from the tortured minds of a few central figures like Adolf Hitler, Josef Goebbels, Himmler, and others. It capitalized upon people's resentment toward and fear of certain groups...Jews, Communists, anarchists, homosexuals, foreigners, etc. It encouraged and committed atrocities against many people.

To go from that, however, to simply saying "Nazis are filth", Bruce, is a blanket statement I cannot agree with. It's like being a Nazi in 1939 and confidently saying "Jews are filth".

There were a great many people in the Nazi Party between 1939 and 1945 who were just as ordinary and normal in their nature as most of us would claim to be. To recognize that is to rise above fanaticism. It is to rise above unthinking hatred and gut reaction.

I would regard anyone who joined the Nazi Party in modern day America to probably be someone who is feeling isolated, alienated, and afraid...and is looking for security by forming a small, tribal identity with a few other such people. (what is termed "a loser", you might say) That's sad...but it doesn't mean the person is, by definition, evil. It means they are lost in their own fearful illusions.

All people instinctively do what they think will make them happy, and they usually do what they think is right at the time, unless they are too afraid to do what they think is right. Then they just do what they think they MUST do.

And, no, you cannot deny them the right to speak...unless you are in favour of running a dictatorship. What you can deny them the right to do is to break the normal civil laws...as regards property, conduct, physical harm to people, libel, and stuff like that.