Try Sam Ash. I was there a while ago and they had a plain brown guitar that looked very like a rip off of that mahogany Martin that people make so much fuss about.

I tried both of them side by side and Damned if that $100 Sam Ash copy didn't sound better. They had a few other cheapies that sounded pretty good as well.

Ya just gotta try them. Oh, and if you're buying a cheapie, make sure that you take the actual demo model that you tried. They'll often say, Oh I'll ge and get you a new one still in it's box.

It's my opinion that people who buy well known names like Martin, do so using 'Peter's Placebo" which states 'that an ounce of image is worth a pound of performance'.

Bert (on Rachael's computer}