Beardedbruce ... obviously we know that. What is at issue (in my post) is when does 'hate speech' (specifically) fuel such violence .... I don't know of and I'm not delivering a solution ... example is when did the speeches in the seedy beer joints of Germany in the 1920's spill over to political rallys by the 1930's which at that time fueled the violence towards races of people ... I'm not sorry to all those about using the Nazi's as an example, but take is as point taken, look at the speeches in Rwanda, the speeches of Islamic fantics in Afghanistan, speeces of Rev. Ian Paisly in Ulster or whatever ... but that's what's at issue/debate here.

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