Brenda James's reasoning is a bit shaky to say the least; you can prove anything by such methods. Neville, apparently, was a relative of Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick, 'The Kingmaker'. In S's Henry V, the King speaks to the Earl of Warwick, addressing him as Neville although at that time the Earl was Richard Beauchamp (lots of spellings!) the Neville earl's father-in-law. Surely his decendent would not have made such an elementary mistake. QED? Of course not but just about as strong as Brenda James's reasoning.

Janine