GUEST 05 Nov 05 - 02:08 PM

"Personally none of those presently detained in Guantanamo would have hesitated for one second in sending the people engaged in discourse here on this forum to kingdom come" (Teribus)

Guest: "We do not know that." Well Guest I won't be prepared to put myself in their hands to disprove the point. If you are saying that YOU would be - Then more fool you.

"I somehow find it heartening that so many of you spring to their defence. They would have no such compassion for you."

"Even if they were all barbaric, that is no reason for us to be the same." Completely wrong in this particular case you fight fire with fire, its the only language they understand.


"I find it interesting to note that in another thread with regards to people who may or may not have been guilty of murder you commented.

Thankfully for the accused Dianavan, in the UK, even under military codes of justice there still exists the presumption of innocence until PROVEN guilty beyond a reasonable doubt." (Teribus)

Guest: I would suggest your real standard depends on who the accused are and in fact work on the principle that those held at guantanamo are in your view guilty until (assuming they are ever allowed to have the chance) proved innocent."

Yes they are, they are combatants by choice, it is not known what acts they have been guilty of perpetrating. That is what is being investigated, that is why they are being held. What is known is that they were part of the apparatus of State terror weilded by the Taleban in Afghanistan at the time when they were in power.

To dianavan - 05 Nov 05 - 02:17 PM

"Teribus - Now, who is posting comments designed to 'stir the emotions' as you have accussed me of doing?"

Not me.

Perhaps you would like to attempt answering the question, "If defence lawyers and the Red Cross are being allowed to see the prisoners, why is the U.N. being denied the right to interview the detainees?"

So defence lawyers are allowed access, as are the Red Cross in accordance with internationally accepted standards, so if the above is the case, as stated by yourself, why would the UN want to interview the prisoners. Now you have to remember diananvan that the intervention in Afghanistan was a UN sanctioned operation, how come that this a an issue now?

"Instead, you insist that the detainees have no compassion. How could you possibly know this?" Eh dianavan maybe the existence on the internet of video clips of people getting their heads sawn off. Which oddly enough you have never seen fit to comment on.

"Just answer the question."

I believe they are now answered - Now maybe you would care to answer some of mine? You won't of course - you never have in the past.