bloody hell, it's still handbags at ten paces, isn't it?

let us accept that all of you are right. you are all right about evrything. history's all bollox anyway, depends on who writes it. pay your money, take your choice.

at some point you have to take everything you know as read, and still make friends.

i don't really detect any recent influxes Terri - this sort of thread as always been distressingly bad tempered.

Distressing because the people involved are so obviously intelligent. And if the clever folks can't sort it out......