The point is ... for a race of people to have been kicked around as much as they have ... their accomplismnets are extreme against the odds .. sorry, but they are a very successful, and have contributed immensly to society and the world, yes almost supermacist, yes somewhat ... hard to swallow, but face it, it's true. That's the point I expect to get clobbered with.

Well, I don't know any Jews who consider Jewishness to be a "race", but that aside, yes, their accomplishments are certainly great, and the odds they have faced have been monumental. But this can also be said for other peoples as well. Yes, Jews have contributed immensly to society and the world. But so have other peoples. None of us exists as a separate entity from the rest of humanity. All of our accomplishments are interconnected, and we build upon the accomplishments of others. I don't think it's constructive to try to assess greater or lesser values to different kinds of accomplishments, or even intelligence.

I know how it feels to be discriminated against. All of my life, I have been treated as less than others because I have learning disabilities. I would most certainly score less than many people in an IQ test. But I don't think that would be a true measure of my real intelligence, or my abilities. I don't see why we need to place greater or lesser values on different peoples and different kinds of intelligence. They're different, but not any more or less valid. It's what makes the world such an interesting and varied place.