I cannot argue that bringing Saddam Hussein down is a good result.

Even strychnine gets good results once in a while.

What is at issue is the mess in which that result sits, and how it came about.

In other news: (NYT):

"A poll released Tuesday by the Pew Research Center, a nonpartisan research group, found that 43 percent of Americans believe that the American and British governments lied about Iraq's weapons to justify the invasion, up from 31 percent early last year.

An ABC News/Washington Post poll conducted last week found that 40 percent of Americans believe Mr. Bush is honest and trustworthy, down from 53 percent 18 months ago and 70 percent three years ago."

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