Teribus said [re moving the goalposts]: Case in point regarding Iraq being a threat to the US, if you are going to raise that, then quote the whole phrase and put it in context.

Hell, I'd be more that glad to have us simply agree that Saddam was never a threat to the U.S., making this point of dispute irrelevant. If you agree that Saddam wasn't such a threat, I think we can just dismiss the actual claims of the maladministration that he was as just so much bloviating and fear-mongering based of false premises. But I'd note that even Dubya's most recent speech (or is it?) doesn't back down on the imminent peril we face from Iraq as well as other places....   ;-) But, if you agree that Iraq was not a danger to the U.S. in 2002, then wouldn't you agree that the Iraq war was a "catastrophic success" (to use the words the maladministration actually used to describe it), and a completely bone-headed blunder?

Cheers,