Susu's Hubby: Another point that I think that needs to be made is that in WW2, over 30,000,000 actual VERIFIED civilians died in direct war action.

Don't know what you define as "direct war action" here (nor where you get your figures). In WWII somewhere around 60 million total died. Some 20 million Russians, with a substantial portion of these civilians, many who starved. Yes, it was horrific. Setting the ethical bar a little low, aren't you, in comparing the Russian (and other) dead from Hitler's war of aggression in WWII to Iraq, and saying we aren't nearly so bad?

Cheers,