"And yes there is a reason for torture. I have posted before that the use of torture can and should be used as a deterrent to those who use torture on our people. I know from the half century of the cold war that the concept of 'deterence is alien to some of you but believe it or not it works. Bullys pick on the weak not the strong."

Martin Gibson and others have been hounded from Mudcat for stating views mild compared to this!
Where is all the outrage...Can people really come here and support the use of torture...Is this subject even up for discussion.

I will certainly never engage in discussion with this person again...Ake