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Thread #86026   Message #1610842
Posted By: Ron Davies
21-Nov-05 - 11:09 PM
Thread Name: BS: Paris Immigrant?Riots
Subject: RE: BS: Paris Immigrant?Riots
Terry--

I'm afraid your attitudes are rather simplistic. Nobody claims birthright citizenship is a magic wand. The root cause of the riots is obviously unemployment. But France's determined refusal both to offer birthright citizenship and to consider ethnicity and religion even in the census, much less programs geared to the largely Moslem underclass responsible for the riots, is a deadly combination.

As I said, in talking about the riots, we are not primarily talking about people who have been "imported with skillsets that ensure they will be unemployed". We are talking about people born in France--of mostly North African parentage. In order to get jobs, the opportunities for schooling must be there, as well as enough of an orderly and functioning environment for the kids to be able to live from day to day without drugs and violence. I've read that the police are afraid to venture in some of the cite's (need accent).
This probably will call for "affirmative action" programs to recruit police of North African descent.

France intentionally tried to attract North Africans and house them in huge apartment buildings on the outskirts of French cities--they did not want them in the fashionable areas or near tourist attractions. The buildings were actually state of the art at the time of construction, and a big step up for any former tenement-dwellers. But they have fallen into disrepair since--with lots of broken windows, elevators that don't work, etc. Kids can't be expected to fix the buildings--and nobody else is doing it. I've read ( in the Wall St. Journal) that some French authorities want to tear the cite's (accent) down--but most inhabitants just want improvements.

You have to convince people they are in fact full members of society. Birthright citizenship would be a big step toward that. If you don't do this, as well as address unemployment and the other problems, you are playing into the hands of radical Moslem clerics--who in fact can police their own areas, and possibly educate their people, but this will be at the cost of establishing a permanent--and possibly aggressive--alien culture within your own borders.

Is this what you want?