InOBU - having argued "Republican Issues" with you in the past (sorry I dropped out of that the last time round, having just stirred the pot - sudden rush at work) - I'd just like to say I'm with you on this one. Or, to answer your question, perhaps "when it's bland, boring, and an irrelevent museum piece". Good luck in the recruitment . .

G. (who clearly doen't know the "other side" of the six members' retirement and so is clearly talking in general terms here!! )