I am also new to the Mudcat, but I am simply overwhelmed with all the nice people who post and all the knowledge out there. I'd like to have you all as personal friends. I hardly let a day go by that I don't access Mudcat - I'm always excited to read/see new threads. This whole thing reminds me of the old story about the sparrow who was freezing to death (I paraphrase), when a cow walked by and crapped on him. He was saved by the warmth. Sometimes a little s..t in your life can be good. I read the idiotic threads and those who are a little less than civil. It reminds me of every day life and gives me hope that those who are sometimes a little less than civil can learn from those of us who are not. Regards to all! Jim