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Thread #86626   Message #1612727
Posted By: Wolfgang
24-Nov-05 - 07:35 AM
Thread Name: BS: What's REALLY Going on in Iraq?
Subject: RE: BS: What's REALLY Going on in Iraq?
In Germany too, it is easy to buy or borrow army uniforms good enough to impress at least civilians. The best we can do is to disregard the original question with which this thread was started and discuss the incident.

The story of the Iarqi army is that insurgents (Sunnis) dressed up like Iraqi army folks to kill other Sunnis????

Hmmmmmm????

I don't get the logic...
(Bobert)

Well, I'll try, though your last sentence doesn't give much hope.

(1) It is well known that the insurgents at times have already used army uniforms or police uniforms to approach tagets that otherwise would be more difficult or dangerous to come close too.
(2) The insurgents have already shown that they kill Sunni they consider collaborators.
(3) Recently there have benn several reports about a split in the insurgent movement, in particular a split between Iraqi insurgents and foreign terrorists. I have linked to a long GUARDIAN article in one of the other threads.
(4) There have been death threats from the terrorists to all Iraqi who support the more peaceful way of getting rid of the occupation.
(5) The people killed have actively supported the idea that the Sunni should participate in elections.
(6) The Iraqi security forces would have no difficulties to send murder squads without uniforms.
(7) The "kill two birds with one stone" argumentation rings true to me.
(8) The timing is perfect for it coincides with the conference about Iraq in Cairo (?) of several opposition and insurgent groups. The conference has condoned explicitely attacks upon occupation forces but condemned (though in mild words) indiscriminate bombings hitting the Iraqi civilian population. The murder of these influential people sends a bloody message to everybody who seems even remotely inclined to compromise: we'll get you.
(9) The old question cui bono has a clear response: the most radical part of the insurgency, the terrorists of the Al Qaeda type.

This is surely no proof, it just shows that the other scenario is at least as probable as the one mentioned above. No rocket suregery involved here... Just a little common sense...

What puzzles me each time anew is how the partisans discussing here go to extreme lengths of twisted argementation and thinking to blame the respective other side for each possible atrocity in this war. As if it was a completely new idea that in most wars both sides commit atrocities. The Bs and Ts of these discussions here are soul mates in this respect. They know who is to blame without any sign of doubt.

Wolfgang