JINSA — Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs is another powerful ultra right-wing "think tank" which publicly declares that "there is no Israeli occupation". It has succeeded in its campaign to make Israeli "security" a central feature of US foreign policy.

PNAC — Project for a New American Century is a leading neo-conservative think-tank advocated "regime change" in Iraq long before Bush came to office. Its white paper Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for the New Century was published in September 2000. It is almost identical to government policy — even the language used.

These are the 'people' that CarolC refer to, the constituent members of two "think-tanks". Now the above was taken from The Guardian earlier this year (25th June, I think).

A couple of points spring to mind immediately:

Point 1 - JINSA
"It has succeeded in its campaign to make Israeli "security" a central feature of US foreign policy."

Well I have a bit of news for The Guardian, the security of the State of Israel has been the declared cornerstone of US Middle-East Foreign Policy since the inception of the State of Israel in 1948 and it's recognition by the United Nations. JINSA had SFA to do with it.

Point 2 - PNAC
"...a leading neo-conservative think-tank advocated "regime change" in Iraq long before Bush came to office."

Again I have news for the Guardian, PNAC weren't the only ones who could be accused of the above. But it was not PNAC influence that made "Regime Change in Iraq" official US State Department Foreign Policy it was US President Bill Clinton on 31st October 1998.

With the amount of work CarolC attributes to these two "think-tanks" the two dozen people involved must be very busy little bees.

On the oil thing Carol, how are they going to do it, how do they "control" another nations oil?

dianavan - 26 Nov 05 - 12:35 AM

I hate to have to tell you this dianavan, but regarding the infrastructure and pipelines of which you speak - they are already there, they exist, they are owned by the Iraqi Government. The posts on this subject written by yourself and CarolC read like very poor comic strip plots.

GUEST,Boab - 26 Nov 05 - 01:11 AM
If, after the December 15th elections, the Government of Iraq insists that all foreign troops leave Iraq, that request will be complied with as rapidly as possible.

On British troop deployments, here are some figures, Inside Iraq 7,500 (That is the decrease since height of operations in 2003 when 45,000 British Troops participated), inside Germany 22,000, inside Northern Ireland 11,000. Now can you tell us exactly why under a Tory Government the number of troops deployed in Iraq would increase, sorry that should be INCREASE.

Another point Boab, the violence and murder that is going on and on, is being perpetrated on the civilian population of Iraq and elsewhere by the insurgents and "foreign fighters", Over the past couple of weeks they have scored some remarkable 'own goals' that have registered throughout the Arab world.

Vocal opposition against them is increasing, their influence amongst the Sunni population is diminishing, I believe that on the 15th December the Sunni population will come out and vote, irrespective of the threats of the terrorists