Roger, I wasn' going to say anything further but you have caused me to speak again. No. You have not. I CHOOSE to speak again. Don't you see the difference? One cannot be "caused to say something. We can be given reason to do so, we can be encouraged to do so, we can be goaded into doing so- but the decision to do so remains with US.

Have you ever been at a youngsters' ball game of some sort where a parent keeps carping and harping - loudly - on how the coach is performing his job? Within a VERY short time ALL of the people around that parent are sick and tired of the PARENT.

The coach is the one designated to do the job. So, if you want to be the coach and not the parent, get your own job.

And that's what I have to say about that.