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Thread #86786   Message #1616070
Posted By: GUEST,Gerry
29-Nov-05 - 12:01 AM
Thread Name: I just discovered Phil Och's music
Subject: RE: I just discovered Phil Och's music
Azizi, those two songs are either from Ochs' first album (All The News That's Fit To Sing) or his second (I Ain't Marchin' Any More). I think the first.

I'll mostly second what Jerry Rasmussen had to say. Joan Baez had something of a commercial success with There But For Fortune, but I think that was about it for Top 40 sightings of Ochs material.

Once upon a time, outfits that owned both an AM and an FM station in the same city would play the same programs on both. Then around 1965 some legislation came in forbidding that, and a whole lot of outfits had to come up with some new programs, quick. In the chaos, one of the New York stations, I think it was WOR-FM, hired some DJs who were not afraid to play some fairly uncommercial music, and I heard quite a bit of Ochs on the radio for the brief period that window was open.

I read in a biography of Ochs that his popularity was concentrated on the East Coast, that he never had the national recognition that Dylan and a few others had. I'd agree with Jerry that Ochs was up there with Tom Paxton & not at the Dylan level, but I was on the East Coast, maybe others wouldn't rate Ochs as high.

I saw him perform a few times in 1967 and later (I think I'm a few years younger than Jerry Rasmussen). I enjoyed his shows. He could be funny, and poetic, and biting. He could also be less than 100% there, and forget the words to his own songs (but enough of us in the audience knew the words by heart to help him through the rough parts).

My older sister was a big fan of the Chad Mitchell Trio, and they recorded several Ochs songs. She bought me I Ain't Marchin' Any More as a birthday present once. It was one of the first records I owned - that and Rubber Soul. I have the first 6 albums. Back then, I thought Tape From California (the 5th album) was the best of the lot, but now I prefer the first three (the two mentioned earlier, and In Concert).

I'm rambling.