Yea, Bert, I agree, but the kids want to know, ya know? Here's what Betty said in an email to me about the great help so far, this is to all of you:

"Well, I guess I got my answer. It's kind of like we thought but put in better words. Once again THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Isn't it amazing how much these guys know and have forgotten?" And THAT is a compliment, guys! Thanks a bunch, katlaughing