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Thread #86786   Message #1617582
Posted By: Bill Hahn//\\
30-Nov-05 - 06:39 PM
Thread Name: I just discovered Phil Och's music
Subject: RE: I just discovered Phil Och's music
Ah, Janine, how I agree with you on your take of Ochs vis a vis Dylan. Admittedly, the early Dylan was on a par with Ochs. We will, of course, never know how Phil would have evolved but I must say that besides the political (brilliant)pieces he also wrote some beautiful lyrical pieces. "Changes" and "The Bells" come to mind right away. And I do believe The Power and the Glory to be an anthem on a par with Woody Guthrie's This Land is Your Land.

I echo Ron Olesko's comments. Would that we had the knowledge of Bipolar then he --Phil---might still be with us.   His siter is truly a special person who started this in 1983--The Phil Ochs song nights and now they have a wonderful life of their own--with her involvement still. Not to be missed when they are in your area.

As to Dylan and Ochs. There are some interesting anecdotes there since they, obviously, knew each other. I have an old tape of an interview Phil gave and he had some rather scathing thoughts on Dylan.

An earlier writer to this thread mentioned Harry Chapin---and how one might appreciate him if one appreciates Phil Ochs. Probably true. Both great artists who left us too soon. Harry Chapin wrote more of the insights of life and Ochs more about state of the world because of its inhabitants.   And, yes, Harry Chapin does have a very nice tribute song to Phil Ochs " The Parade's Still Passing By"----he also has a great one about Pete Seeger--Old Folkie.

Bill Hahn