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Thread #86507 Message #1623182
Posted By: Bobert
08-Dec-05 - 06:17 PM
Thread Name: BS: Brought to you by... GHWBush
Subject: RE: BS: Brought to you by... GHWBush
Can't agree with you more, Don...
Barry Goldwater amd Richard Nixon would not believe their eyes if they could see the amount of deficit spending that their present day, so called conservatives, are involved with... And for what?
But, really, it doesn't matter a tinker's dam about liberals and conservatives right now and who's who...
What is going to happen over the next several years is a major collision that both liberals and conseervative know all about but neither is willing to be the first to really take on in any kind of realistc manner...
That collision will come into full focus when out country finds it can no longer compete because of the ill-thought-out carpe diem thinking that when into our planning for the retiremnt of the Baby Boomers...
Tghis isn't just about Social Security but alaso about America's "industry"... Now, I'm probably going to sound a little like a Republican here but just bare with me... Back in the 50's and 60' and even into the 70's America's industries were doing good... NBo, make that very good and so during these years nice retirement packages were put in place to reward the workers for their labor in creating a lot of wealth for America...
We are now seeing the demise of obne industry after another and, well, it's easy to say that GM is getting what it deserves and in some ways, yeah, GM has made some bad product decisions but that a topic for another thread... Ford has made better product decisions and it is hurting as well...
(But, Bobert, Toyata is doing great and they are American designed and built...)
Glad you brouight that up... Yes, Toyota is doing well because they do not have the pension monkey on their back that they can use to make a better product...
(Holy cow, BObert, you aren't going to blame unions now, are you???)
Well, yes and no.... When GM was drowing in cash it was easier to make promises but now those notes have come due and, no, this isn't a union problem but an American problem.... And it's not just GM... It's lots of old Amercian companies...
Now here's the part where I think America is going to have to lay down the labels, roll up some sleeeves, and get to work... It will get very, very messy but sometimes things have to get very,very messy before wars end... And make no bones about it, America is very much at war with itself and the governemnt in a time of great need is asleep at the wheel, still playin' divide and conquer while grabbing as much cash as it can from whereever it can be extorted...
Fine... Maybe that's what is needed but, as I have predicted, this little out-of-control government will come to an end by necissity... That purdy much why all wars end... Now, the question that is difficult to answer is will it take Baby Boomers and rednecks from the South to form an alliance to bring down the monster or will the monster just one day wake up and look in the danged mittor and say, "Hey, we've messed this thing up purdy good. Wonder what ot will take to fix it???"
Yeah, the liberal v. conservative trhing is just a meaning diversion, much like gay marriage and flag burning...
Like Ross Perot used to say, "Hey we got a lot of plans, just no courage to try some things..."
Now before someone brings up Bush's Social Security plan, let me say this... He was correct in bringin' up Social Security... Where he screwed up was not allowing a discussion... That was more of the same liberal v. Conservative diversionary crao that he has done since 2000... We're not going to fix anything without a discussion..
That is why I get real pissed at some of the GUEST's here... The seem to be nuthin' but shills for the divide-and-conquerors...
I've tried to have discussionas about all kinds of issues here in Mudville but it ain't easy with the usual cast of gnats buzzin in ones face...
Bobert