LOL Ake! It was in fact Teribus I was fearful of when I pasted in figures without really knowing their validity. But I can't really fault T-bus for doing his homework, teven if I'm usually at odds with his take on the results.

I'll let you know whatI think about the British parliamentary scene when a suitable thread crops up, but in the meantime I'm sure you can guess....

Getting back to Pinter's wonderful rant, I hope the bits I've pasted in will be provocative enough to tempt some mudcatters to follow Freda's link and see the extracts in perspective. To see, for instance, those "vicious and remorseless crimes" enumerated.

By the way, Ake, thanks for saying "our foreign policy" and "our political philosophy," because British governments have been desperate to follow wherever USA foreign policy has led - as Pinter made clear.