As may be, Cluin, but the thread startrd off as a rant against other people who don't believe in the christian christmas fairy story.

And to guestA in America the Christian religion is the foremost of the foreign religions imported from Europe to your shores. Before that it was imported to our shores here in Britain and to make it palatable to the natives they let them hold on to their old holidays bit gave them new names and pretended that they were really events im the christian story.

The sensible people just get on and enjoy a party at the darkest time of the year while the Zealots go on saying it's a reflection of the one truth they are spouting.