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Thread #87409   Message #1633488
Posted By: Bill D
22-Dec-05 - 10:35 PM
Thread Name: BS: Intelligent Judge
Subject: RE: BS: Intelligent Judge
yes...very nicely put editorial. There are some points it doesn't make about how religious beliefs can remain secure, even with evidence of Evolution, but it makes clear the judge's ruling that ID does not belong in Science classes.

I don't know why it is so hard for many folks to understand that evolution is not 'just another type of belief', but is simply a description OF the laws of Nature, so far as we have worked them out.
   The fossils of the Burgess Shale in Alberta ARE several hundred million years old. We humans did NOT coexist with dinosaurs. We DO share 95%+ of our DNA with chimpanzees....etc.....these are bits of information carefully gathered and studied and related to OTHER bits of data about the universe, they are not 'beliefs' in the same way that the story of Genesis is a belief. Science is not in the business of DISproving simply tries to state what CAN be known. In the same ummmmm..spirit...religion should not be in the business of 2nd guessing science and fretting whether data on the age of the Earth creates a problem for Biblical study.

It is still perfectly possible to believe BOTH evolution and Genesis! " seems we are learning more every day about how the Earth has developed since God created it.."
It is NOT necessary to accept Bishop Usher's calculations as the last word about 'when it all began'! We DID exist before 4004B.C., and we have relics we can ***PROVE*** are older...and we have the mummy found a few years ago in the Alps as further proof.

   well....if I seem to go on too long, it is because it is important that those who are still confused or dubious about these things have some solid evidence both about the science involved, and about the reasoning involved in separating religious thought from scientific thought.

The ID folks who "intend to go on fighting" should NOT be allowed to insert matters of intrinsically religious faith into school text books.