The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #87393   Message #1634285
Posted By: The Shambles
23-Dec-05 - 09:07 PM
Thread Name: Law prevents carol singing
Subject: RE: Law prevents carol singing
Although I agree in part that we will drift back to the "Old Days" of the two in a bar, I am glad in part that in fact the number of venues that have acquired a license, and as I have said before whether we want to class sessions as entertainment or not, that is the main reason behind the Landlord allowing them to happen.

The idea that a licensee would allow sessions and possibly class them as entertainment is at best only partly true. In many I have attended the participants were the only custom and very welcome on a cold mid-week night. And what a licensee (or a licensing officer) may assume - does not turn a participatory night of social music making into a entertainment - for the reasons I have given.

No more than wearing a crash helmet and making vroom-vroom noises will turn your bicycle into a Harley Davidson. Bicyles and motor bikes resemble each other as far as both have two wheels.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck - it might well be a duck - but it also rather depends on how skilled an ornitholigist the person making the idenification is. The problem has been in the past that in order to shoot down ducks - some of our LAs have been prepared to indiscriminately shoot down anything that flies into their sights to make sure that no duck escapes them.

I agree with Eric but until we can pressurise a change in the words of Schedule 1 we are stuck with the definitions in it. We will just have to do our best to make sure that the words of the law are followed, not selectively ignored and that LAs do not continue the practice of making up their own laws based on prejudice and lack of knowledge.