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Thread #87316   Message #1638877
Posted By: GUEST,AR282
01-Jan-06 - 01:38 PM
Thread Name: BS: Domestic Spying in the U.S.
Subject: RE: BS: Domestic Spying in the U.S.
>>Some of the vileness is due to the poor looser syndrome and some of it is truely heartfelt. There will always be two or more opposing opinions.<<

Sissy,there is something wrong when people defend their president from criticism by saying that the subject should not be open for debate or discussion.

Characterizing people who would prefer to debate because they see serious wrongdoning being openly committed by their president as sore losers is the very thing you are complaining about. You call the anti-Bush people vile and vicious but that is exactly the behavior you are exhibiting.

>>The core of Civilization is that people can bow to the majority.<<

That's the core of slavery not civilization. Good lord! The purpose of civilization is that people can work together to achieve great things as a race as well as indiviuals!! My god, for the last 12,000 years, the only real achievement of civilization in your mind is that the minority bow to the majority??? That's rich.

>>They can make concessions for the purposes of peacefull coexistense. This was the case several years ago<<

Yeah, we call them The Indian Wars.

>>but since the Vietnam war people worldwide have increasingly been taking sides and being less willing to just "get along"<<

This is completely assinine. We've had much larger, bloodier wars in the world before Vietnam. For you, only the wars that Americans were in actually matter.

>>I realize that my problems are the result of my actions and any corrections need to be done by me. I realize that if I am not as well off as I think I should be, there are oppoertunities by which I can make improvements.<<

Right. So when this lawless president got reelected and his party, unwilling to stop him, got an even tighter grip on Congress, I realized that corrections have to be made by me. That if my country is not as well as it should be, and the world as a whole, there is an opportunity by which I can make improvements. I can write my congressman. I can write any congressmen right through email. I can debate the issue in online forums where people curious to hear both sides can come and learn and participate if they so desire. I can vote in the midterms in November.

>>person can take on the attitude of a looser / victim or one can take on the attitude of a winner and someone who can take care of themselves.<<

Right.

>>Which person is the better off?<<