The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #87904   Message #1646051
Posted By: Amos
10-Jan-06 - 11:30 PM
Thread Name: BS: Religion=good folk doing bad things?
Subject: RE: BS: Religion=good folk doing bad things?
THe test of good spiritual principles is whether they improve life in their application. We've been around this block before Bill. I can take one hundred people who have recently made spiritual breakthroughs of some kind -- getting in touch with the Infinite, or discovering great forgiveness, or finding out their hatreds were all misplaced and self-serving, or deciding they can let go of some trauma , or finding out they love their fellow man...and the "replicability" required by a good "scientific process" will simply be that in each case their lives began to go better for them. They may have found themselves communicating better, or having more friends or enjoying solitude more thoroughly or just being quietly happier.

The common ingredient in each case will be their personal sense of tolerance, or their personal sense of certainty, or their ability to exchange viewpoints comfortably, will go up.
That's my notion of spiritual change for the better.

Other things can produce similar results, like a sudden increase in wealth or overcoming hunger. But these are a different order of event -- a different piece of the Maslovian hierarchy, if you will.

Whether you think there is replicability there depends on what sort of gauge you use, though. If I insisted that a scientific experiment was not replicable unless it could be demonstrated that EVERY molecule in instance A had behaved the same way as EVERY molecule in instance B had done, you would scoff. It's not logical within the framework of applicability.

SO before you holler about spiritual changes not being testable by scientific method, define the framework.

Or don't. I'm easy, man! :D


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